The pre-op appointment (Mark II)

Because my first pre-op appointment three years ago was not documented, I give you… super long ass detailed entry for this pre-op appointment!

I woke this morning around 6:30am in debilitating pain. I estimated I was 7.5 on the pain scale. Getting out of bed ramped it up to 8 on the pain scale. I wolfed down some cereal and took 1.5 Tylenol 3 in an effort to whack the pain.

Just after 7am, we loaded the wheelchair into the car and were on the road. I was nauseous and shaking from the pain – about an 8.5 on the pain scale. I cried on the way to the doctor’s office.

The pain meds kicked in about 30 minutes after taking them. I became chatty and felt alright. We were on the Bay Bridge, just approaching the toll booth at that time.

Then it went aweful again.

I became really dizzy and nauseated from the Tylenol 3. It occurred to me then that this had happened before – on the drive back from our one year wedding anniversary in Mendocino, California last year. I was on Vicoprofen at the time, but the results are similar enough – I was severely nauseated and dizzy and hunched over in the seat to try not to vomit.

So I noted out loud that when I am on codeine, I must not be in a moving vehicle, nor should I be ambulatory.

The visit itself went well. Nurse Jessie could see that I was poorly, so she ushered me into the room she usually reserves for me when I visit. She had me lay on the exam table and put a blanket on me. She got me a cup of hot water to drink.

My husband was with me the whole time. I was able to snooze for a few minutes, and then Dr. Giudice and her assistant, Dr. Skillern, came in to start the visit. At first Dr. Giudice described the general procedure and what to expect. She let Dr. Skillern talk a few times. After a few minutes, I said I was confused – I thought Dr. Wang was going to assist. Dr. G and Dr. S looked at each other, then back at me, and Dr. G simply said, “she was, but no.”

Oooooookay then! Wonder what untimely end her employment met!

At this point, I gruntled and shifted and forced myself to sit up so I could take notes, because I noticed my husband was not writing down anything on the questionnaire I had typed up. My surgeon took the 3-page document and we went over it together, twice, just to make sure everything was covered.

You really should copy these questions for your own surgeon interview. I got the questions from various places on the web, as well as using my own questions.
The questions are barely in any ordered format.

1) How many pelvic laparoscopies for endometriosis have you performed?

Well over 500 since 1987.

2) How many in the past month?

Dr. Giudice is a big ‘ol rock star now, so she often travels for seminars and such. She said that 93-95% of her surgeries per month are specifically for endometriosis.

3) How many had complications during the procedure?

She hates to jinx herself, but she says only one complication, and it was a fibroid issue – she discovered it was embedded in the uterine wall when she tried to take it out….

4) Do you have rectal surgery experience?

Yes, but it depends on how serious the endo is in that region.

4a) If not, will you have someone on hand in case there is rectal involvement?

No – she said that if adhesions to the rectum and intestines are found, they’ll do what they can within reason. However, if it requires a bowel surgeon, it’ll have to be yet another surgery. They just don’t have the surgeon on standby like that. Ugh.

5) Do you have intestinal surgery experience?


5a) If not, will you have someone on hand in case there is intestinal involvement?

See 4a above.

6) How much experience with pelvic laparoscopy for endometriosis does your assistant have?

More than 84 laparoscopic hysterectomies.

7) How many staff will be in the operating room with you, and what are their jobs?

Roughly six people: surgeon, surgeon’s assistant, anesthesiologist, anesthesiologist technician, scrub tech, and a circulation nurse.

8) Will you please correct my retroverted uterus?

Sadly, she cannot. She said the uterus is already held in place by a series of ligaments, and to push it into a position it was never in, even if it’s the “right” position, can lead to tissue damage and serious side effects. She said she’d see what she can do while she’s in there – perhaps she can put some sort of material between the uterus and the bowels so that it’s not gluing itself to the bowels anymore…

9) What sort of preparation is necessary for this surgery?

She wants me to do a bowel prep. HUGE SAD FACE.

10) What kind of anesthesia will be used?

General – I will be intubated.

11) Will I be given Versed?

I can ask for it at time of surgery.

12) How long do you expect the procedure to take?

Two and a half hours.

13) If one or both ovaries are badly damaged from the endometriosis, will you take one or both out, and what are my next steps (even if it’s just one ovary that has to be taken out)

It is not her intent to take anything. She only intends to treat surface disease and excise the endometriomas.

14) Will there be photos or video of the surgery?


15) If a biopsy is done, when can I expect to receive results, and will my doctor call me?

Ten days post-op, though the holiday may delay until after Christmas (unless it’s bad news, then I’ll be notified immediately). The doctor herself will call me in either case.

16) I do not plan to take hormonal suppression after surgery – will this prolong healing time?

Not per se – taking hormonal suppression only serves to help prevent regrowth.

17) What vitamins/supplements should I avoid just prior to and after surgery?

Everything on my vitamin and supplement list is safe to take up to the day before surgery.

18) What foods and drink should I avoid just prior to and after surgery?

No food, drink or vitamins after midnight the night before surgery – otherwise, just stick to my current diet.

19) I know that being overweight can make me more high risk during surgery. How much weight should I lose in the next two weeks?

Not necessary to lose any weight (I am 5’5″ and weigh 166lbs and Dr. Giudice says it is not considered dangerous or obese for the surgical procedure).

20) What areas of my body need to be toned up in the next two weeks?

Nothing I can do will matter for this type of surgery, says Dr. Giudice, but if it will make me feel better, go for it.

21) Would a tubal ligation help in any way towards the “hormonal suppression” idea, or is it merely a birth control move?

It is merely a birth control move.

22) How many menstrual cycles do I need to give it before I declare this surgery a success?

It’s always hard to say. The risk of this surgery is that I might not experience any pain relief at all, just as with the first surgery. I was told not to be so hard on myself. I was told that they hope that I would have immediate benefit from surgery, but giving it 3-6 menstrual cycles is also rational.

23) When can I return to work as a preschool teacher?

Six weeks, preferably. Four weeks is okay with restricted movement.

24) When can I resume bicycling?

Four weeks.

25) When can I resume sexual intercourse?

Four to six weeks.

26) What results can I expect from this surgery?

Find the scar tissue and fix it. Correct the pulling on the right side.

27) What is the next step if this surgery does not work?

The Mirena IUD will once again be suggested, along with seeking help for Chronic Pain Syndrome, and continued pain management therapy.

I’ve been worried about sleep apnea and heart murmur again, because I often get up multiple times during the night to urinate, and I often have a racing heartbeat in the middle of the night. This has been going on for about a year, but I’ve been too stubborn to accept a new medical issue. Now that I’m facing surgery, I’m concerned. I would like to push for an ECG, to see if the murmur is stable since my last exam, which was in August, 2001 at CPMC.

I was told to talk to my primary doctor. I called my insurance and they said I can self refer, so I’ve got a call in to a cardiologist.

Other notes to doctor:
Please be super careful when intubating me, because last time, my lower right inside gums/jaw was scraped open. I had a gash to worry about healing in my mouth, on top of the pelvic wounds. It took weeks for my mouth to heal up.

I was told to tell this to the anesthesiologist.

Other notes to doctor:
Please be super careful when catheterising me, because it took me several months after surgery last time to regain muscle strength to stop leaking urine.

She had her assistant note this, and said they will use a pediatric cath this time.

After the appointment, which I ended because I really needed to use the bathroom, I dreaded the walk back to the car. The Tylenol 3 was still coursing through my bloodstream, so even the elevator ride back down to the main floor made me wanna hurl. Once outside, I was off balance and shuffled a lot. I had a fixed gaze and probably a stupor to my face the whole way back to the parking garage. I did not use the wheelchair, though, because I felt that sitting and being pushed would be like being driven in the car, and that made me super nauseated.

The car ride back home was just as nauseating as the car ride to the appointment, but with the added hell that the pain relief part of the medication was wearing off. I felt every single bump in the road, and yelped continually. I declared that we are renting a Lincoln Continental or similar for surgery day. I want something comfortable and quiet to ride in. Hubby said no problem. ;)

I had blood work to submit, so my husband took me to the lab in our town. It’s not usually busy. I staggered in and filled out the paperwork, and waited. There was one guy ahead of me, rattling off all the names of people close to him who’ve died in the past year. So sad. He was getting blood work to rule out some kind of illness – he was saying he hoped he’d get good news back. I hope he does, too.

The phlebotomist I had was horrible. I think she was still rattled from the last guy, cuz when she emerged from drawing his blood, she looked like a deer caught in headlights. And she was young. She asked me what my blood draw was for and when I told her, she had no idea what endometriosis was, and told me she hoped the surgery lasted so that I’d never need another. Feh. That’s not how endometriosis works, but thanks.
She stuck the needle in without first securing the tourniquet or even telling me to squeeze my fist. Then she moved the needle around confusedly when the blood didn’t start pouring into the vial. I squirmed and yelped and whined, just as my husband returned with his coffee and said ‘Hi!’ … then he went grey and backed away into the waiting room.
The phlebotomist apologised but kept at it. A few seconds more and I could take no more. I told her to stop. She looked defeated. I told her to try the other arm, and not until the tourniquet was on for a moment, and not until I was squeezing my fist. She obeyed, and the blood squirted forth into the vial.

When we got back from the lab, I got into my pajamas, ate a couple of potato chips and went to bed. I was only able to sleep for about 45 minutes before I woke starving. I ate some pumpkin pie and something else – I forget.

I was unable to go back to sleep, but at least the pain had gone back down to a 4. I was still pretty high from the one morning dose. I kept trying to nap, but it wouldn’t last long. Around 3pm, I finally fell asleep for an hour and a half. The only reason I woke was that my cat had knocked against the inside of the closet. The noise alarmed me, which alerted me to the fact that my bladder/uterus was screaming to be emptied. I also noticed at that point that I was insatiably thirsty. I went through a pint and a half of water in minutes. This of course led to me having to pee every five minutes for the next two hours…

At about five minutes to 5pm, while bedridden and hanging out on the laptop, a new round of cramps appeared. I had the webcam on while chatting with my husband, so he got to see the change in my face, and he mentioned it. The cramps ramped up immediately from a 6 to an 8. I whimpered and yelped and tried to breathe. I took a full Tylenol 3, cursing the entire time, as I had only had one half hour of lucidity all damned day, and now I had to start a new round of being high on pain meds.

No position was comfortable. I stood up. I squatted down. I got on hands and knees. I stretched up, then down. I tried heating pad on the front, then on the back. I sat on my knees. It wasn’t until the Tylenol 3 kicked in and I had some dissociation that the intensity calmed down. Now I can feel the stinging pain, but at a distance. I have low level nausea from the meds and all the blood. And if I wasn’t already tired, I’m more tired. When my husband gets home, we’ll have Indian food delivered and then I’ll go to bed for the night, and hope I wake up pain-free tomorrow.

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